Season 5

S5 E10 – Learning From Expereince with Casey Fabling | PAINT PODCAST | THE BUSINESS BRUSH

Welcome to the season finale of the Business Brush. Keep an eye out for a special conversation tomorrow, but today, Nick chats with Casey Fabling of Richmond, Virginia’s Fabling Built. Fabling isn’t a pure paint contractor. Instead, Fabling Built offers services in masonry, roofing and general handyman work in addition to painting and remodeling. From his start as a college kid repaying hosts with handywork to running his 11-employee business today, Fabling walks Nick through his trials and challenges as a business owner. For example, not knowing how to hire people for jobs he’s not good at. The solution ends up being hiring somebody who’s great at hiring and worry about easier-to-manage situations within the business.

S5 E9 – Gaining Control of Your Business by Letting Go of Tasks with Ryan Hammond | PAINT PODCAST | THE BUSINESS BRUSH

This week on the Business Brush, Nick welcomes Ryan Hammond of Ryan Hammond Incorporated to the show. Ryan Hammond Inc did nearly $5 million last year, and Hammond tells Nick all about how he started painting as a summer gig for a mentor who ran his business to wind down in retirement and how that time helped him become a better business owner.

S5 E7 – College Painters Who Can’t Quit with Travis Ulrich | PAINT PODCAST | THE BUSINESS BRUSH

On this week’s episode of the Business Brush, Nick welcomes Travis Ulrich to the show from Webfoot Painting in Bend, Oregon. Ulrich is the systems and operations guy in his business he started with Gavin Hepp in college, thinking they would quit and move on once they’d graduated. Now, 15 years later, Webfoot did almost $6 million in revenue with sights set on $8.5 million for 2019.
Ulrich takes Nick on a deep dive into what kind of work Webfoot does, where it does work and when it was the right time for each segment of the business to blossom.

S5 E6 – How are They Gonna Call With Dan Petrulak | PAINT PODCAST | THE BUSINESS BRUSH

Welcome back to the Business Brush. This week, Dan Petrulak of D.P. Ready 2 Paint from the Business Brush groups brings Nick a question he’s working on about how to schedule clients who aren’t sure they want to hire contractors who are booked out two months in advance. The answer to that question evolves into a thorough discussion of how phones serve contractors as marketing tools.

S5 E5 – Just Like in a Commercial (Painting Business) with Ryan Gill | PAINT PODCAST | THE BUSINESS BRUSH

On this PDCA edition of the Business Brush, Ryan Gill, owner of Brush Strokes Quality Painting in Augusta, Georgia. Gill learned how the business of painting worked as a kid working with his dad who ran an industrial painting business, sandblasting and repainting bridges and grain silos.

S5 E4 – Small Business Naked Reprise: Analog Marketing with Johnny Battle | PAINT PODCAST | THE BUSINESS BRUSH

This week on The Business Brush, Nick sits down with his old friend and former co-host Johnny Battle to talk about door hangers and how any exterior-focused business like Walls By Design or Johnny’s Erbert Lawns can best use traditional marketing materials.

S5 E3 – Painting Indianapolis Whatever Color the Client Requests with Luke Reynolds | PAINTING PODCAST | THE BUSINESS BRUSH

This week on the Business Brush, Nick talks to Indianapolis-basis painter Luke Reynolds of All-IN Painting about his journey from working summers with his dad’s painting company to pilot and aerospace administration major to owning his own painting company.

Managing a business with technology

Early in the life of his business, Reynolds started to use Business Brush sponsor Estimate Rocket to manage his crew of 10-15 painters and all his company’s projects because it was an easy way to keep track of increasing business. Luke and Nick compare experiences using the platform and how they each use it.

Finding the right niche

They also discuss the tricky process of finding the best way to run a painting business. It’s individual. Some companies naturally fall into subcontracting and make that work where others can’t, and those companies might be most profitable doing residential. Reynolds discusses his trial-and-error process finding what works best for All-IN.

To see examples of All-IN working its best, go to and visit All-IN’s Facebook page.

S5 E2 – Revisitng Kansas City Painter Ryan Toelkes and how Benjamin Moore supports Painters with Craig Bunting | PAINT PODCAST | THE BUSINESS BRUSH

Welcome back to the Brush. This week, Nick chats with Craig Bunting from Benjamin Moore about what he does as director of end user marketing and what services the company offers to build relationships with its end users- painters. And he invites Ryan Toelkes back onto the show to discuss how he handles the winter months and what he hopes to implement in 2019.

S5 E1 – Following Best Leadership Practices with John Neubert | PAINTING PODCAST | THE BUSINESS BRUSH

Welcome back to the Business Brush. To start season 5, Nick gets back to the Brush’s marketing roots in a chat with John Neubert, who’s been running Neubert Painting since 1975. They discuss all the ways marketing for paint contractors has changed and the best ways to engage potential clients and convert them into actual clients.